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On the article Three Weeks Left for Discounted Beach Tags
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
11:33 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
WJS,
Most things I've read by Dr. Farrell and people who I have talked to, who have talked to him, say that it isn't unique to the south end of Ocean City and that's something that applies to the entire State's coastline. We're spoiled with the middle parts of the town actually responding well to beach replenishment... it's a model project for the state, but it's really the exception, not the rule. I however, will ask around.
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
11:35 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
ReplyEric,
Just give the town a try. Volunteer for stuff, get to know the community. Not saying everything the administration does is correct, but perspective helps.
Here are some local knowledge that you won't see in the sales brochures:Merion Park is referred to by the old timers as 'sunken city', they were calling that neighborhood that by the 1970s.
The south end of Ocean City was declared a disaster area after the '62 storm and the National Guard blocked off the access to the south end. Sandy was a stronger storm, and yeah, sand ended up in the street, but the south end didn't have as much devastation. The beach was a little more resilient and the bulkhead helped.
The beaches were so bad by the early '90s, that there was a 10-12ft drop off the boardwalk onto the beach. High tide, waves would reach under the boardwalk and to the almost now invisible bulkheads at the street ends. During some of the larger nor'easters during the '80s and '90s, waves were spilling water, sand, and pieces of the boardwalk into the street. Waves reached the bulkhead in the south end during nor'easters.
There use to be a landfill between where the dog park and sewer plant is now. Some of the mound is still there (covered in trees).
West Ave. in the south end use to be 2+ feet lower in places until the late '90s.
There is a police shooting range in town. And yes, they use it for training and certifications.
And MUCH, MUCH more.
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
11:28 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
ReplyEric,
Just give the town a try. Volunteer for stuff, get to know the community. Not saying everything the administration does is correct, but perspective helps.
Here are some local knowledge that you won't see in the sales brochures:
Merion Park is referred to by the old timers as 'sunken city', they were calling that neighborhood that by the 1970s.
The south end of Ocean City was declared a disaster area after the '62 storm and the National Guard blocked off the access to the south end. Sandy was a stronger storm, and yeah, sand ended up in the street, but the south end didn't have as much devastation. The beach was a little more resilient and the bulkhead helped.
The beaches were so bad by the early '90s, that there was a 10ft drop off the boardwalk into the street. High tide, waves would reach under the boardwalk and to the almost invisible bulkheads at the street ends. During some of the larger nor'easters during the 80s and 90s, waves were spilling water, sand, and pieces of the boardwalk into the street. Waves reached the bulkhead in the south end during nor'easters. Beach fills starting in the early '90s changed all that.
There use to be a landfill between where the dog park and sewer plant is now. Some of the mound is still there (covered in trees).
There is a police shooting range in town. And yes, they use it for training and certifications.
And MUCH, MUCH more.
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
11:00 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
WJS,
The beaches do get bigger, maybe not much wider, but the elevation of the beach is a little higher. The ACE has found beaches in the Outer Banks can take up to four years to naturally return to their previous state after a large hurricane. Sandy was a huge event, and similar dynamics are applicable. For one, people need to realize the beaches in the south end have NEVER been wide. They're not going to be like they are in the middle part of the town. By the end of last summer, they were as wide as as I can ever remember them being. People do know they have trucked sand into the south end before, correct? I remember the sand being orange and gravely in the early '90s after they did that.
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
10:54 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
Eric,
The point was you don't go to a house under construction with just a foundation and complain about the bathroom that isn't built already. I know what I read in the papers, and what I said above has been stated many times. I also have had some college level coastal geology classes in the past, so I have some idea of what I'm talking about.
For one, you spout off like you're an expert on the town. You're not. I grew up and went to school on the island, the people I grew up with, their parents grew up on the island, and some of them, their parents before them. I know people who have worked for the city (retired 20+ years ago) and I know people who still work for the city. I have no alliances to any of administration in the city, but I have some perspective. There is a lot more to the town than you read here or in any of the other papers. It's that way anywhere you go. Any town, anywhere.
Try to assimilate yourself into the town and community, instead of being an 'internet hero'. No one outside of the Patch knows who you are. I recognize you from your profile picture, you use to pump gas at the 34th St. Sunoco, correct?
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
4:23 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
Mr. B,
I agree
DSA,
Yes, that's how it works. Storm waves tend to erode beaches and move the sand offshore. Beaches flatten out in response to storms. The winter has a higher rate of storms, so these are called winter swells. Wave action is much calmer during the summer, so the sand moved offshore during the winter months migrates back to the beach. Of course, some is lost downstream to littoral drift, but as long as sand is still moving from the north, sand will be added back.
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
3:43 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
ReplyI guess the signs signaling that it's still an active construction zone don't mean anything... So, have people not been reading the papers? The berm is the basis for a yet to be completed dune and the rest is going to be scraped into the surf, making for a higher and wider beach. This teamed up with the sand bars you can see off the coast working their way back the shore will add sand to the beach. The beach will look quite a bit different by the end of the summer as the natural beach processes that take place add sand to the beach.
I think half the patch commentators are drunk when they respond....
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On the article Five Things to Know About City Council's Thursday Agenda
Bob
3:41 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
ReplyHave people not been reading the papers? The berm is the basis for a yet to be completed dune and the rest is going to be scraped into the surf, making for a higher and wider beach. This teamed up with the sand bars you can see off the coast working their way back the shore will add sand to the beach. The beach will look quite a bit different by the end of the summer as the natural beach processes that take place add sand to the beach.
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On the article Search For Missing Boater Off Ocean City Continues Wednesday Afternoon
Bob
3:37 pm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013
ReplyThe straight line distance from ACY to the GEH inlet is ~ 10 miles vs the ~ 30 miles from the Cape May base to the GEH inlet.
Bob
10:40 am on Sunday, May 12, 2013
If you're paying $8000 a year in taxes in OC, you own a property where you can certainly afford a beach tag, or you own a duplex which produces revenue - which either completely pays for your taxes or comes close.
Lastly, if residents don't have to pay, then anyone who doesn't own property on the island shouldn't have to pay for our beach replenishment. That means no Federal and State money for anything beach related, only the town would pay. By that logic, people who may never see the ocean or travel to New Jersey are paying for OUR beach. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...